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It's not a supply problem, it's a distribution problem.
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nicholasweed Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015
The Flag Counter on my DA Page supports this.  63 percent of my views are from the USA.  I hardly have any views from Africa.....
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HNBBTF Featured By Owner Edited Dec 31, 2014
The biggest problem with this is that Africa was never wealthy to begin with. How can steal you what doesn't exist. The Wealth of the Developed and Developing world are the fruits of their own endeavors not that of countries that had no wealth to begin with. This comic is guilty of one of the greatest economic fallacies of all time which is the zero sum game. It assumes their is a fixed pie and for one to become wealthy another must lose, but the reality is especially under capitalism, that one person doesn't take a bigger cut of the pie, but bakes more pie to be eaten.

The reason why so many countries in Africa are poor has little to do with the West, and especially Capitalism. For the most part Africa was even poorer before European Imperialism. The reason Africa is poor is because of corrupt and overbearing local governments that restrict economic freedom and the productive value it brings. This is in large part is do to local and political culture. The African countries that have done the best are the countries with the freest markets and are able to protect and respect peoples Life, Liberty, and Property. Botswana is a shining example which is ironically next to Zimbabwe a country endemic of all the things wrong with governance in many African countries. Botswana has had Free Market Capitalism with strong protection of individual liberties especially property. Since it's founding and has gone from a piss poor Desert Country the UK thought was worthless to becoming today one of Africa's wealthiest and dynamic economies. Zimbabwe a fertile resource rich country has seen oppressive corrupt government institutions with flagrant violation of human rights especially property rights. Much of it under the call of Socialism and Today is one of Africa's poorest countries. In Botswana they have a serious problem with Zimbabwean illegal immigrants.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You forget about Israel and South Korea and Japan and China and South Africa and Jordan and Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates and the fact that about 80% of those "neglected" countries are run by dictators, warlords, and terrorists.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
there's more to this issue than what can be explain by a political cartoon
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Naturally.  The issues are always more complicated than cartoons make them appear.  But the facts remain that 1) there is enough food produced in the world to feed 7 billion people, and 2) there is no profit in distributing this ample food equally.  The lack of a profit motive is what is strangling Africa and the rest of the Third World.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
Along with the local powers withholding all food donated or homegrown, as well as the inability of the actual governments to implement an organized farming system. Though the capitalists who are profiting from abusing these lands are merely skimming off the top of an already broken system. If african states were to try to get rid of the parasitic capitalists the place to start fixing things would be internally, in their governments and economies. Though once they could stand on their own two feet the capitalists would merely make new arrangements for the labor and material through trade. Like in china.

That said some people don't want to live under a centralized power. And a stable democracy today pretty much implies a free market which would bring capitalism to africa anyways. 

I'm getting off track, all i'm trying to say is that captialism isn't exactly the root of this problem and removing captialism from africa completely would most likely cause more problems with political instability and power vacuums than it would solve. It's a noble notion to say "stop abusing the weak" though like you said, it's always more complicated.
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BudCharles Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
Pfff and Australia doesn't even exist :P
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
All the rabbits ate it.
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BudCharles Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
Our rabbit problem isn't THAT bad :P
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just my half-assed attempt at a joke.  ;)
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BudCharles Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
Ohhhh sorry XD I thought it was something stupid the rest of the world literally believed like barbecued shrimp or Sydney being in the desert :P
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, only 2% of Australia's population lives in the interior, at least from what statistics I've heard.
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BudCharles Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
That's correct yeah XD Sydney is right on the coastline, and I live in a grassland area 200 km from Sydney in a town called Bathurst. Barely anyone lives in the deserts XD
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eeveel0ver Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014
*holds a hand out for a highfive* STRALIA MATE!
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Colonial-Marine Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:rofl:
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lichtie Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
Wonder what 'sonrouge' thinks of this one. if he ever climbs out of his 'Randian' cave?
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So far, the capitalists have been quiet.  Who knows, maybe they don't have a justification.
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lichtie Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
Maybe, the can't 'afford' to make a comment.
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teamkiers Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The thing about Capitalism is it's not about who gets a piece, it's about who gets the biggest piece. In nature, the biggest piece doesn't go to the Giraffe, or the Monkey, it goes to the Lion. Why? Because the Lion is the king, at the top of the food chain. It's the way it worked a million years before there were men saying otherwise. It's probably how it should work.

That's the problem though, what do we do when the other animals begin starving? Do we kill some Lions, do we leave the issue and hope it regulates itself? We live in a much more complicated eco-system than a million years ago, and the needs of man are much more developed and complex than that of predator and pray. Irresponsible capitalists would have you believe that the solution to the issue of poverty is throwing money at the problem, irrationalists would say a cull of the herd would do just as well.

Through actual relief efforts, prevention of exploitation of labour by TNCs and/or MEDCs and providing the knowledge, education and means for a nation to sustain itself, stability will sky rocket, and then you will see a country thrive. Education of females is also an important issue, to prevent the spread of STI's, HIV/AIDS being a disease which is commonly spread through sexual interaction in poverty stricken nations across the African continent. Rather than just sponsoring a charity or random relief effort, sending aid packages, Governments can actually invest in sustainable solutions, like farming committees for example, which teach local farmers how to maximise the yield of their crops so that they can move on from being sustainance farmers and actually earn a living.

We already have the World's greatest and most fantastic militaries conducting operations to secure our Nations' interests and international shipping, and if the focus of these shipping routes change, and patrols became more general purpose, pirates wouldn't be a problem for much longer. Hell, people wouldn't need to raid ships anymore, even fewer would want to with the USS Arleigh Burke breathing down their necks.

World Bank loans don't work, because banks are businesses, not charities. Even so, the World Bank has already struck off debts that developing countries owe, examples including Uganda and Kenya. Once a country's stability is secured, a proper Democratic government can be installed, which in turn, means corruption is less widespread and the distribution of wealth can be more evenly managed between various sectors.

This is called responsible capitalism, the wet dream of every well-meaning westerner. It is also a complete fabrication and more or less unobtainable with the current democratic systems we have in place throughout the world powers. I could go on about all the wonderful ideas people have had that may well do great things for countries in dire need of development, but I'd be wasting my breath. I'm sat here on an eight hundred pound PC in a three bedroom, two story house that costs over thirty thousand a year in rent, in one of the richest nations on earth. You think I give a shit about Mbantuwe in Kenya, who's being held back from an education because his family can't afford to feed their family of five, pay the lot rent and put him through school? Am I all that concerned about Salim, who lost his entire family and both of his legs when a FRAG-HE round fired from a Syrian D-30 hit the market they were walking through? The short answer is no, because the stories of these people mean nothing to me and will likely never affect me.

However I do have a conscience, and the ability to reason. These combined mean that I recognize that my current situation is not morally right, that I get to live like what would be considered a celebrity to many impoverished people across the world, and they sit in rusting shacks, sharing a single room in which they eat, sleep, cook and wash. I carry these traits because I have an innate sense of empathy, I lack tenacity and aggression. It is because of this that I will never make a good businessman, people like myself never do. That is why responsible capitalism would never see the light of day, and these nations will go on suffering. Sustainable development is a widely unattractive ideal amongst TNCs across the globe, because the men in charge seek only to capitalize on all that they own, and the people that govern them see fit to let them do so, as long as it keeps them happy and the equity flowing through their countries.

Do with that what you will.
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sm0keshell Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Student General Artist
In your face, dirty capitalists
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is not really intended to be an insult to capitalists, but rather to point out one of the negative effects of capitalism.
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Overrated-Relish Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Capitalism is different form imperialism, capitalism is the belief that our government should provide life, liberty and the freedom to achieve happiness to all citizens with minimal regulations in the economy; letting the "invisible hand" control the economy. I'm fine with your belief, but realize that what you show here isn't capitalism. Capitalism is an economic ideology that holds tradition and free economy as cornerstones to a country but what you show here is imperialism and that doesn't take place anymore (or at least not to the extent you show here). Canada (my home land) actually spends over a million dollars a year to aid 3rd world countries. Lastly I have to say that most of the problems in Africa are from civil wars and famine, not 1st world countries. Eliminating capitalism will not remove the problems in Africa. Like in most things the solutions is a great deal more complex then that.

 

I do support right-wing ideals but I am a welfare capitalist which is slightly right of centre. 

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kakerate Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
Technically the graphic is correct; but hear me out. Having somewhat free or at least fair government regulations on the market, contract agreement enforcement by government, and government recognized private property rights, are foundation elements of capitalism. Said things( i.e. capitalism) did drive people forward and motivate them to create more wealth than any other system of governance in the world...

So from that perspective it IS what lead to such great imbalance. Though I'd say your assessment is right. It was the irresponsibility, ignorance, and indifference that let Africa become so raped.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
First off, what is one million dollars a year next to all the money that's flowing into the first world nations. Second, much of the poverty and strife are a direct result of colonialism's backlash. 
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Overrated-Relish Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That doesn't make it my problem.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Nice way to avoid empathy
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Overrated-Relish Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep :)
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Spacer176 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
''"[the] government should provide life, liberty and the freedom to achieve happiness to all citizens with minimal regulations in the economy"''

This is a very colourful way to describe the principle that capitalism is about the right to own a private business and advance socially by means of monetary aquisition.

Sure nations throw millions of dollars at Africa hoping the problems will go away, but right now you could throw ten '''trillion'''' dollars and not much will change. As the description says it's ''distribution'' that's the problem. Those lorryloads of food or money aren't helping anyone if they're being hijacked by marauders or pirates. Somalia for example has a severe pirate problem because their decades-long civil war means that it is impossible to make an honest living in the interior. Because the Somalian government is too busy fighting rebels, they can't spare the military power to control the waterways.

Westerners need to do more than throw money at Africa hoping they will improve. Imperialism may have ruined the continent, but capitalism is further choking it by giving it no easy way to recover. One of the things African nations have tried to do is get monetary support from the World Bank and possibly other nations in the form of big loans for big projects.

The issue? the World Bank eventually wants its money back and internal issues can make the project much more expensive, driving these countries ''further'' into debt.
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Overrated-Relish Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Do I look like I give a fuck?
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Spacer176 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
That is</is> the general assumption when you post a comment like the one you did.

If this was all sarcasm...you need to study sarcasm.
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You are the one who commented first, so... yes, you do.
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was wondering if someone would use imperialism to counter this.

It is true that many of the problems in contemporary Africa are the result of European imperialism over the past six centuries, but this does not exclude capitalism from the equation.

Capitalism is defined as follows:  "an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"

The driving force of capitalism is profit motive, and when imperialism is profitable, then capitalism supports it.  Of course, modern imperialism is directed at the middle east (primarily Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.).  The point here is to illustrate that, in a capitalist system, there is little to no drive to directly aid the prevention of famine, civil war, AIDS, malaria, etc.

Canada's national annual budget, as of 2012, is $276.1 billion.  This means that, if what you said is true, the Canadian government spent less than 0.002% of the national expenditures on aid in 3rd world countries.

I acknowledge that contemporary 1st world countries are not the cause of Africa's problems, but the comparative apathy of their actions towards developing long-term solutions to these problems, is directly perpetuating them.  The problems in Africa are not quite as complicated as many are led to believe.
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Overrated-Relish Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If you want me to read what you say, please don't make it too long. Ain't nobody got time for that!

And to be honest I don't care anyways, we are both too stupid to change our minds no matter what the other say, I don't wish to offend you I just wanted to give me opinion.
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My post was not much longer than yours.  I just used paragraphs to make it easier to read.

Glad to see you don't care about mass starvation.

I wouldn't call myself stupid.  I prefer the term 'opinionated'.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Talk about lack of compassion
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whomever that was is an idiot, and possibly bipolar.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Or a tea partier. 
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's what I said.
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Spiritswriter123 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
+1
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Something tells me Zucca is going to draw or write a response about this
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was just thinking that, haha.
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
I have a feeling someone conservative or libertarian will
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have no doubt.  Probably do a response picture with a bunch of Cambodian Killing Fields skeletons that says "Prosperity according to Communism".  If not, joeisbadass will probably do it.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, one of them will do it, if they haven't already XD
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
One of them will
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wonder how many communists/socialists have had to put up with the "commies are all genocidal" argument.
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Same as Libertarians have to put up with "Objectivism will lead to a chaotic mess like in Bioshock" argument
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So, all of them?
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Maybe. Plus, I think that film The Purge was anti-libertarian also
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